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	<title>Comments on: Overplayed Characters (Part 1)</title>
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		<title>By: Dryad Woods</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2009/03/overplayed-characters-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-36602</link>
		<dc:creator>Dryad Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try this, it&#039;s one of my favorites, A Male Half-Dragon Desert Dwarf Rogue. He carries a hand crossbow for distance, and a rapier for close combat. Is pretty powerful, and has a great nack of getting in and out of trouble. Very stealthy, and can break open a chest if he can&#039;t pick it. A perfect all around character if you have the wits to use him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this, it&#8217;s one of my favorites, A Male Half-Dragon Desert Dwarf Rogue. He carries a hand crossbow for distance, and a rapier for close combat. Is pretty powerful, and has a great nack of getting in and out of trouble. Very stealthy, and can break open a chest if he can&#8217;t pick it. A perfect all around character if you have the wits to use him.</p>
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		<title>By: YoungRocketSamurai</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2009/03/overplayed-characters-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-24837</link>
		<dc:creator>YoungRocketSamurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always liked the barbarian my wife used to play. Sure, she was big and strong and carried a huge axe, but she was always drinking tea and encouraging everyone to sit down (over tea) and talk things out.

When that (often) didn&#039;t work, she (reluctantly) hacked her opponents to pieces with the huge axe. But she always felt sad about it afterward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always liked the barbarian my wife used to play. Sure, she was big and strong and carried a huge axe, but she was always drinking tea and encouraging everyone to sit down (over tea) and talk things out.</p>
<p>When that (often) didn&#8217;t work, she (reluctantly) hacked her opponents to pieces with the huge axe. But she always felt sad about it afterward.</p>
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		<title>By: Character Creation Tips — Dungeon&#039;s Master</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2009/03/overplayed-characters-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-22082</link>
		<dc:creator>Character Creation Tips — Dungeon&#039;s Master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I quickly learned during my first GenCon was that you see a lot of similar characters. All of the overplayed, standard and even predicatbale stereotypes are represented &#8211; Dwarven Fighter, Dragonborn [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I quickly learned during my first GenCon was that you see a lot of similar characters. All of the overplayed, standard and even predicatbale stereotypes are represented &#8211; Dwarven Fighter, Dragonborn [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kuster Jr</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2009/03/overplayed-characters-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-21461</link>
		<dc:creator>Kuster Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...okay, so now I&#039;m going to have to go build a dull, drunkard elf character...

Thanks, Golgotha Kinslayer, that&#039;s a fantastic concept that should provide many hours of mirth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;okay, so now I&#8217;m going to have to go build a dull, drunkard elf character&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks, Golgotha Kinslayer, that&#8217;s a fantastic concept that should provide many hours of mirth.</p>
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		<title>By: OnlineDM</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2009/03/overplayed-characters-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-18786</link>
		<dc:creator>OnlineDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just seeing this post now from your &quot;Combinations That Break the Mold&quot; post, and I&#039;m glad I saw it.  I&#039;m still new to D&amp;D and while I&#039;ve read Lord of the Rings, I&#039;ve never read Salvatore (though I&#039;ve heard of Drizzt).  I&#039;d never heard of the scarred wizard as a cliche before, for instance, so it&#039;s useful for me to know about it.

All that said, I think the mechanics of D&amp;D 4e encourage players to create certain cliched characters just because of the racial bonuses to abilities that are essential for certain classes.  It doesn&#039;t mean the mannerisms and motivations of the character have to fall in with the cliche, but the race/class combo is designed to flow smoothly and to be effective in combat.  If you want to be an archer you want a class with dexterity, and so on.

I like this post a lot from the role-playing side of things, though.  Just because you&#039;re a Dwarven Fighter doesn&#039;t mean you have to be surly, as you said.  Good food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just seeing this post now from your &#8220;Combinations That Break the Mold&#8221; post, and I&#8217;m glad I saw it.  I&#8217;m still new to D&amp;D and while I&#8217;ve read Lord of the Rings, I&#8217;ve never read Salvatore (though I&#8217;ve heard of Drizzt).  I&#8217;d never heard of the scarred wizard as a cliche before, for instance, so it&#8217;s useful for me to know about it.</p>
<p>All that said, I think the mechanics of D&amp;D 4e encourage players to create certain cliched characters just because of the racial bonuses to abilities that are essential for certain classes.  It doesn&#8217;t mean the mannerisms and motivations of the character have to fall in with the cliche, but the race/class combo is designed to flow smoothly and to be effective in combat.  If you want to be an archer you want a class with dexterity, and so on.</p>
<p>I like this post a lot from the role-playing side of things, though.  Just because you&#8217;re a Dwarven Fighter doesn&#8217;t mean you have to be surly, as you said.  Good food for thought.<br />
<span class="cluv">OnlineDM&#180;s last [type] ..<a class="4a78e0335f 18786" rel="nofollow" href="http://onlinedm.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/maptool-macros-multi-target-attacks/">MapTool Macros – Multi-Target Attacks</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Class And Race Combinations That Break The Mold — Dungeon&#39;s Master</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2009/03/overplayed-characters-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-18782</link>
		<dc:creator>Class And Race Combinations That Break The Mold — Dungeon&#39;s Master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of our original articles discussed Overplayed Characters, today I want to look at combinations that aren&#8217;t typical. I&#8217;m sure there are many [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of our original articles discussed Overplayed Characters, today I want to look at combinations that aren&#8217;t typical. I&#8217;m sure there are many [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kaelivrin</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2009/03/overplayed-characters-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-15190</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaelivrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this is all really great! I just recently got into dnd (4e) and have been playing and DMing for almost a year now. I am actually surprised to say out of my group of 6 i have only one of the stereotype builds (the duel wielder elf). I myself play a drow bard.

Its really great to see people with the same interest with all this useful input!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this is all really great! I just recently got into dnd (4e) and have been playing and DMing for almost a year now. I am actually surprised to say out of my group of 6 i have only one of the stereotype builds (the duel wielder elf). I myself play a drow bard.</p>
<p>Its really great to see people with the same interest with all this useful input!</p>
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		<title>By: Ameron</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2009/03/overplayed-characters-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10654</link>
		<dc:creator>Ameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard
Excellent point. If you&#039;re new to RPGs in general then you may find it silly to &quot;create&quot; a personality for your character. Falling back on these tried and true (and overused) examples may be a good introduction to fantasy RPGs. I never thought about it that way.

@Sean
The lost orphan will absolutely be on the next list. It&#039;s been around a while and I&#039;m still seeing it. At least with the five I list above we&#039;re not seeing them as much any more. Orphans seem to be on the rise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard<br />
Excellent point. If you&#8217;re new to RPGs in general then you may find it silly to &#8220;create&#8221; a personality for your character. Falling back on these tried and true (and overused) examples may be a good introduction to fantasy RPGs. I never thought about it that way.</p>
<p>@Sean<br />
The lost orphan will absolutely be on the next list. It&#8217;s been around a while and I&#8217;m still seeing it. At least with the five I list above we&#8217;re not seeing them as much any more. Orphans seem to be on the rise.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2009/03/overplayed-characters-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10460</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever my players make new characters, I&#039;m always having to deal with this stupid &quot;Orphan&quot; backstory.

Orphan Rogues. Orphan Wizards. Orphan this, and orphan that. And of course they are all dark, mysterious, never really talk much, and &quot;badass.&quot;

Since when was it cool to be an orphan? I&#039;ve officially declared at the table that orphans will no longer be allowed to become adventurers.

LOVING PARENTS ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF A GOOD ADVENTURER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever my players make new characters, I&#8217;m always having to deal with this stupid &#8220;Orphan&#8221; backstory.</p>
<p>Orphan Rogues. Orphan Wizards. Orphan this, and orphan that. And of course they are all dark, mysterious, never really talk much, and &#8220;badass.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since when was it cool to be an orphan? I&#8217;ve officially declared at the table that orphans will no longer be allowed to become adventurers.</p>
<p>LOVING PARENTS ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF A GOOD ADVENTURER.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2009/03/overplayed-characters-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10433</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of players pick these cliche characters because they know their personalities and feel they can roleplay them better.  Most people don&#039;t know the other options or don&#039;t know the personalities of other characters.  What they should realize though is that the character&#039;s personality is whatever you want it to be.  If you don&#039;t know what kind of personality or traits a kalashtar bard will have, then you make something up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of players pick these cliche characters because they know their personalities and feel they can roleplay them better.  Most people don&#8217;t know the other options or don&#8217;t know the personalities of other characters.  What they should realize though is that the character&#8217;s personality is whatever you want it to be.  If you don&#8217;t know what kind of personality or traits a kalashtar bard will have, then you make something up.</p>
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