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		<title>By: Dark Sun: A Dungeons and Dragons Game Day &#171; jebbx@notarealdotcom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dark Sun: A Dungeons and Dragons Game Day &#171; jebbx@notarealdotcom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lahrs</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2010/07/dd-encounters-dark-sun-week-7/comment-page-1/#comment-22517</link>
		<dc:creator>Lahrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear you were ill.  Have a great time at GenCon; one of these days I hope to go myself.</description>
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		<title>By: Ameron</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2010/07/dd-encounters-dark-sun-week-7/comment-page-1/#comment-22516</link>
		<dc:creator>Ameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lahrs
Unfortunately I was ill this week and could not play in week 8 of D&amp;D Encounters Dark Sun. This upcoming week I&#039;ll be at GenCon so there won&#039;t be a week 9 write-up either. When I return form GenCon there is a very strong likelihood that I&#039;ll run the encounters I missed in a marathon session. If I do, I&#039;ll be sure to share my experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lahrs<br />
Unfortunately I was ill this week and could not play in week 8 of D&#038;D Encounters Dark Sun. This upcoming week I&#8217;ll be at GenCon so there won&#8217;t be a week 9 write-up either. When I return form GenCon there is a very strong likelihood that I&#8217;ll run the encounters I missed in a marathon session. If I do, I&#8217;ll be sure to share my experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragonbreath</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2010/07/dd-encounters-dark-sun-week-7/comment-page-1/#comment-22515</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragonbreath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys, sorry to bother with this question: I can&#039;t find a store in my country which sponsors D&amp;D Encounters. Is there any way to get the DM materials? I&#039;m a big DS fan and would like to DM these encounters for my group. But I&#039;m not very clear how this encounter sessions work. Or if the DM materials are available for download. Thanks to anyone that can point me in the right direction....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, sorry to bother with this question: I can&#8217;t find a store in my country which sponsors D&amp;D Encounters. Is there any way to get the DM materials? I&#8217;m a big DS fan and would like to DM these encounters for my group. But I&#8217;m not very clear how this encounter sessions work. Or if the DM materials are available for download. Thanks to anyone that can point me in the right direction&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lahrs</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2010/07/dd-encounters-dark-sun-week-7/comment-page-1/#comment-22493</link>
		<dc:creator>Lahrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have noticed there has been no week 8 update, did you guys skip a week of play?  I am down to so few people, I can&#039;t even count it as an official sanctioned game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed there has been no week 8 update, did you guys skip a week of play?  I am down to so few people, I can&#8217;t even count it as an official sanctioned game.</p>
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		<title>By: Lahrs</title>
		<link>http://dungeonsmaster.com/2010/07/dd-encounters-dark-sun-week-7/comment-page-1/#comment-21983</link>
		<dc:creator>Lahrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe you should know 4th Edition fairly well before you attempt to DM Game Day.  I would recommend attending every session (if possible) of Season 2.  Each session will help you understand the game better, and ask if you can DM one or two of them.  

You mentioned converting to 2nd, so I am going to assume you have played and DMed D&amp;D at some point.  So if you have DM experience, and just need to be brought up to speed on 4.0, it is time to hit the books and maybe run a few sessions from home as well.  Having a cheat sheet in the form of the DM screen will help a lot, and I recommend picking up a 4th Edition module to run.  

On the other hand, if you have never DMed and are new to 4th as well, again, hit the books hard, but see if you can shadow a DM during the DS campaign, anything for experience.

If you have registered your DCI card, I believe you can go here https://membership.wizards.com/ and sign up to be a judge.  You can take exams over the 4th edition rules which will also help get you up to speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe you should know 4th Edition fairly well before you attempt to DM Game Day.  I would recommend attending every session (if possible) of Season 2.  Each session will help you understand the game better, and ask if you can DM one or two of them.  </p>
<p>You mentioned converting to 2nd, so I am going to assume you have played and DMed D&amp;D at some point.  So if you have DM experience, and just need to be brought up to speed on 4.0, it is time to hit the books and maybe run a few sessions from home as well.  Having a cheat sheet in the form of the DM screen will help a lot, and I recommend picking up a 4th Edition module to run.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, if you have never DMed and are new to 4th as well, again, hit the books hard, but see if you can shadow a DM during the DS campaign, anything for experience.</p>
<p>If you have registered your DCI card, I believe you can go here <a href="https://membership.wizards.com/" rel="nofollow">https://membership.wizards.com/</a> and sign up to be a judge.  You can take exams over the 4th edition rules which will also help get you up to speed.</p>
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		<title>By: shikirr</title>
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		<dc:creator>shikirr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the first few sessions (Shakirr) but my attendance has trailed off since. Its not that I don&#039;t enjoy Encounters (I do!), its just that I&#039;ve had a lot of scheduling conflicts over the past few weeks. 

From the sounds of it, I might wait until chapter 3 to return to the table. I&#039;m guessing that chapter 3 takes place in or near the city-state of Tyr. The vast majority of the Dark Sun setting revolves around the city-states, so logic would dictate that the introductory adventure would spend at least some time exploring the urban settings. 

I might be interested in dming that World Game Day game, but how well does a DM need to know 4th edition to run one of these? Are there shortcuts and advice for DMs who are 4E newbies? Heck, I&#039;d be tempted to convert it to 2nd edition!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the first few sessions (Shakirr) but my attendance has trailed off since. Its not that I don&#8217;t enjoy Encounters (I do!), its just that I&#8217;ve had a lot of scheduling conflicts over the past few weeks. </p>
<p>From the sounds of it, I might wait until chapter 3 to return to the table. I&#8217;m guessing that chapter 3 takes place in or near the city-state of Tyr. The vast majority of the Dark Sun setting revolves around the city-states, so logic would dictate that the introductory adventure would spend at least some time exploring the urban settings. </p>
<p>I might be interested in dming that World Game Day game, but how well does a DM need to know 4th edition to run one of these? Are there shortcuts and advice for DMs who are 4E newbies? Heck, I&#8217;d be tempted to convert it to 2nd edition!</p>
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		<title>By: panzerleader</title>
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		<dc:creator>panzerleader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally and to be fair, the crystal spiders appear in the 2e Dark Sun Monstrous Appendix or whatever they call them.  Otherwise I completely agree to the lameness of this encounter, and I am going to endeavor to add my own Dark Sun flair to the continuing adventure, and to really gauge the balance and adjust to what I think it should be, rather than trusting to the now suspect module as written.  Too many inconsistencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally and to be fair, the crystal spiders appear in the 2e Dark Sun Monstrous Appendix or whatever they call them.  Otherwise I completely agree to the lameness of this encounter, and I am going to endeavor to add my own Dark Sun flair to the continuing adventure, and to really gauge the balance and adjust to what I think it should be, rather than trusting to the now suspect module as written.  Too many inconsistencies.<br />
<span class="cluv">panzerleader&#180;s last [type] ..<a class="58e2b59843 21929" rel="nofollow" href="http://panzerleader.wordpress.com/2010/07/23/dungeons-and-dragons-encounters-season-2-dark-sun-week-7/">Dungeons and Dragons Encounters Season 2- Dark Sun Week 7</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also agree that the last two encounters lacked qualities that would make them stand out as encounters in a unique setting, but I think the delve could have been given a Dark Sun-ish makeover if some more colorful discriptive could have been incorporated...  Sand/slit sprinkling from cracks in the walls and ceiling, the echoing howl of the sandstorm outside, or maybe some other simple reminders that when the party finds their way out of the caverns, they will again be greeted by Athas&#039; oppressive and deadly sun and environment.  Or maybe the module designers could have given more thought into &quot;fleshing out&quot; the creatures in the caves: the undead, while still typical undead monsters, could be described in terms of physical descriptives (i.e. leathery, sun-tanned skin the color of saddlebags draped over the bodies).  Or, spiders that made an audible sound like the &quot;hiss&quot; of sand falling when they moved (I know I&#039;m using alot of sand descriptives, but you get the idea).  Also, did anyone notice that the addition of the &quot;gauntlet&quot; minions were a little out of place?  I mean, when I think of gauntlets, I think of METAL ones...  and I didn&#039;t realize until after the encounter that my imagination was foolishly misguided.  What were those gauntlets actually made of anyway?  Bone... wood...stone???  Ugh!  Bear in mind that I&#039;m not blaming the DM for the lack of descriptive - to me it seems more like an accidental design flaw in the encounters.  If the designers really wanted to make the encounters feel more alien and unique, they might want to try throwing in some &quot;preview&quot; monsters from the upcoming Dark Sun monster manual... but whatever, I still have fun gaming with the group so no biggie...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree that the last two encounters lacked qualities that would make them stand out as encounters in a unique setting, but I think the delve could have been given a Dark Sun-ish makeover if some more colorful discriptive could have been incorporated&#8230;  Sand/slit sprinkling from cracks in the walls and ceiling, the echoing howl of the sandstorm outside, or maybe some other simple reminders that when the party finds their way out of the caverns, they will again be greeted by Athas&#8217; oppressive and deadly sun and environment.  Or maybe the module designers could have given more thought into &#8220;fleshing out&#8221; the creatures in the caves: the undead, while still typical undead monsters, could be described in terms of physical descriptives (i.e. leathery, sun-tanned skin the color of saddlebags draped over the bodies).  Or, spiders that made an audible sound like the &#8220;hiss&#8221; of sand falling when they moved (I know I&#8217;m using alot of sand descriptives, but you get the idea).  Also, did anyone notice that the addition of the &#8220;gauntlet&#8221; minions were a little out of place?  I mean, when I think of gauntlets, I think of METAL ones&#8230;  and I didn&#8217;t realize until after the encounter that my imagination was foolishly misguided.  What were those gauntlets actually made of anyway?  Bone&#8230; wood&#8230;stone???  Ugh!  Bear in mind that I&#8217;m not blaming the DM for the lack of descriptive &#8211; to me it seems more like an accidental design flaw in the encounters.  If the designers really wanted to make the encounters feel more alien and unique, they might want to try throwing in some &#8220;preview&#8221; monsters from the upcoming Dark Sun monster manual&#8230; but whatever, I still have fun gaming with the group so no biggie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sunyaku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunyaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was my FIRST Dark Sun encounter, and after faithfully following this blog for a month or so now, I was expecting murder and mayhem. But man was that an easy encounter. Which I suppose was nice, seeing as how I don&#039;t have much &quot;play&quot; experience (been doing a lot of studying and blog diving to be a completely new group&#039;s DM) and I just had a character thrown at me. That said, the encounter itself isn&#039;t worth talking about.

What I do find highly disheartening is how confused everyone STILL is by the level up. Castri didn&#039;t show up this week, so that&#039;s the character I&#039;ve taken on. I did a fair amount of research on Errata discussions and blatant mathematical errors made in the Dark Sun pregen characters, and I have to wonder, Wizards wouldn&#039;t INTENTIONALLY fudge character data would they? Or was it just carelessness? I realize they&#039;re pregens, but that just confuses new players when they learn how character creation actually works. I was at a table with several new-ish DnD players who clearly didn&#039;t know the rules as well as I already do, and the leveling business with the tiny sheets seems to be very difficult for people to manage. 

So for my new friend Castri, I found a very neat Errata&#039;d, level 2 version of Castri, per the Wizards changes here (http://community.wizards.com/dungeonsanddragons/go/thread/view/91301/25199049/Pregen_Character_Sheets_for_Level_2). Then I painstakingly created the character from scratch manually to verify the accuracy of the Errata I&#039;d found (the document is from a non-Wizards source). I identified several error/nerf points in the character math, and I think I&#039;ll be able to clear up a little bit of confusion at my FLGS. The biggest point of confusion is that Castri is a Marauding fighting style, NOT a Two-Weapon Fighting Style, so he SHOULD NOT receive the Toughness feet, as someone had manually written in on my level 2 scrap. Marauding gets him Two-Weapon Defense and the bump up to 8 speed (http://www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/class.aspx?id=5). He does, however, have the Two-Weapon Fighting FEAT after reaching level 2.  

Next week I&#039;ll talk to my DM about using the Errata&#039;d version of Castri in the game. I think I&#039;ll just print out the set of Errata&#039;d characters in case he wants to use them for the table. They&#039;re ssssoooo much cleaner, clearer, and will decrease everyone&#039;s pain. People seem to think Castri is gimped, but I&#039;m up for the challenge. And really, Castri&#039;s errata wasn&#039;t as bad as some of the others. It just gives him the training in athletics and the 6th healing surge that he was already supposed to have. I mean c&#039;mon, a seasoned marauding ranger gladiator with +4 STR who&#039;s NOT trained in athletics? Now THAT&#039;D be ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was my FIRST Dark Sun encounter, and after faithfully following this blog for a month or so now, I was expecting murder and mayhem. But man was that an easy encounter. Which I suppose was nice, seeing as how I don&#8217;t have much &#8220;play&#8221; experience (been doing a lot of studying and blog diving to be a completely new group&#8217;s DM) and I just had a character thrown at me. That said, the encounter itself isn&#8217;t worth talking about.</p>
<p>What I do find highly disheartening is how confused everyone STILL is by the level up. Castri didn&#8217;t show up this week, so that&#8217;s the character I&#8217;ve taken on. I did a fair amount of research on Errata discussions and blatant mathematical errors made in the Dark Sun pregen characters, and I have to wonder, Wizards wouldn&#8217;t INTENTIONALLY fudge character data would they? Or was it just carelessness? I realize they&#8217;re pregens, but that just confuses new players when they learn how character creation actually works. I was at a table with several new-ish DnD players who clearly didn&#8217;t know the rules as well as I already do, and the leveling business with the tiny sheets seems to be very difficult for people to manage. </p>
<p>So for my new friend Castri, I found a very neat Errata&#8217;d, level 2 version of Castri, per the Wizards changes here (<a href="http://community.wizards.com/dungeonsanddragons/go/thread/view/91301/25199049/Pregen_Character_Sheets_for_Level_2" rel="nofollow">http://community.wizards.com/dungeonsanddragons/go/thread/view/91301/25199049/Pregen_Character_Sheets_for_Level_2</a>). Then I painstakingly created the character from scratch manually to verify the accuracy of the Errata I&#8217;d found (the document is from a non-Wizards source). I identified several error/nerf points in the character math, and I think I&#8217;ll be able to clear up a little bit of confusion at my FLGS. The biggest point of confusion is that Castri is a Marauding fighting style, NOT a Two-Weapon Fighting Style, so he SHOULD NOT receive the Toughness feet, as someone had manually written in on my level 2 scrap. Marauding gets him Two-Weapon Defense and the bump up to 8 speed (<a href="http://www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/class.aspx?id=5" rel="nofollow">http://www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/class.aspx?id=5</a>). He does, however, have the Two-Weapon Fighting FEAT after reaching level 2.  </p>
<p>Next week I&#8217;ll talk to my DM about using the Errata&#8217;d version of Castri in the game. I think I&#8217;ll just print out the set of Errata&#8217;d characters in case he wants to use them for the table. They&#8217;re ssssoooo much cleaner, clearer, and will decrease everyone&#8217;s pain. People seem to think Castri is gimped, but I&#8217;m up for the challenge. And really, Castri&#8217;s errata wasn&#8217;t as bad as some of the others. It just gives him the training in athletics and the 6th healing surge that he was already supposed to have. I mean c&#8217;mon, a seasoned marauding ranger gladiator with +4 STR who&#8217;s NOT trained in athletics? Now THAT&#8217;D be ridiculous.</p>
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