D&D Encounters: Against the Cult of Chaos – Report Card

by Ameron (Derek Myers) on April 11, 2013

against-the-cult-of-chaos-coverAs we say goodbye to another season of D&D Encounters we reflect and discus what we liked and did not like about season 12. I’ll admit that I think Against the Cult of Chaos was one of the better seasons of D&D Encounters we’ve had so far. I do have some criticisms, but in the grand scheme of things I think the good far outweighs the bad. Review my list and let me know your thoughts on D&D Encounters: Against the Cult of Chaos as a whole in the comments below.

The Good

Non-linear Story

I loved, loved, loved the fact that the players drove the story this season and got to pick which order to do the mini quests. Everyone had the same encounter in week 1 and week 8, but the six weeks in between could happen in any order and from what I saw and heard they certainly did. One of the complaints I’ve had about previous seasons (even the ones I really liked) was that they railroaded the PCs. I’ve always accepted that this was just a consequence of the way D&D Encounters worked. This season disproved that theory.

Low Magic

Too many players feel that their magic items are what define their PCs. In an adventure where there are practically no magic items you don’t have this problem. Characters are developed based on their personality, skills and powers. He’s not the Wizard with a magic wand; he’s the arrogant Wizard who won’t take crap from anyone. The removal of magic and the continued use of inherent bonuses meant that the power level was balanced and the PCs weren’t hung up on material rewards. It also emphasized the importance of the three magical artifacts once discovered. When new players are just learning D&D going no magic or low magic is certainly a good idea as it reinforces the need for strong character development.

Minions

This season the encounters made great use of minions. There were a lot, but not too many. The encounter at the Caves of Chaos where the hoards of minions tried to overwhelm the PCs was my favourite to run and play this season. The minion archers presented a real danger at the Moat House forced PCs to think tactically. The crowded encounter in the Golden Grain Inn’s cellar showed how easily a few carefully placed minions could overwhelm a party without a controller. When used right minions can add a new level of excitement to any encounter and this season they did that every time.

No Dragons, No Drow, Very Few Undead

In almost every season of D&D Encounters the PCs face a Dragon. I realize that the game is called Dungeons & Dragons but that doesn’t mean that you have to face one every season, especially an encounter that’s designed for level 1-3 PCs. I was glad that we didn’t see this cliché this season. After three consecutive seasons of fighting Drow I was glad to not see any Drow except those in the party. Don’t get me wrong, I like Drow a lot, but I needed a rest. Finally there’s undead. After skipping Dragons and Drow I knew that there had to be some undead in there this season. There were a few – the Wraith in the lake, and the zombies and Haffron Hommel’s Skeleton in the final encounter. This was a perfect amount of undead, two of eight encounters. In both encounter the undead enemies were not the big bad guys, rather they were part of the supporting cast. This was perfect use of the often overused undead go-to for most DMs.

Pacing and Progress

I really like that D&D Encounters is sticking with an eight week format. This is just long enough to have a decent adventure, but short enough that you don’t get bored with the characters or the setting. Even if you don’t really like the adventure you’re likely to tough it out if you know it’s only eight weeks. With the short seasons I like that the PCs advance quickly from level 1-3. At the end of week 3 and week 6 the PCs level up. This helps new players see that the more they play, the more their characters will develop and the more choice they have in how that PC develops based on the decisions they make.

Rewarding Balance

This season there was something for everyone. The encounters were tough most weeks, but if your party had representation for all four roles (controller, defender, leader, striker) you had a much greater chance of success than a party without one or more of these present. Over the eight weeks there were encounters that let each role shine at least once. One of my groups learned the hard way that controllers make fighting minions a hell of a lot easier. Another group learned that many strikers can’t make up for one good leader and as a result saw a lot of character deaths this season.

D&D Next

For the first time ever players could use D&D 4e or D&D Next mechanics at D&D Encounters. You still needed a copy of the printed adventure to run things but a conversion kit was available for download from the Wizard of the Coast website. Although none of the tables at my FLGS decided to run D&D Next I’ve heard a lot of very positive recounts of groups who tried it and loved it. I’ve also heard that it’s drawn in new players who were not wild about 4e but are interested in giving D&D Next a try.

The Bad

Homage to the Classics

This was very close to being on the Good side but in the end I had to put it here. I liked that this season drew elements from some classic adventures (Village of Hommlet, Keep on the Borderlands, Against the Reptile God), but I’m not sure if it worked as well as intended. In order to smush aspects from these three adventures together it made some of the threats to the town seem forced and almost out of place. I think this might have worked better if they’d only used two rather than three modules or if the season was a few weeks longer. It just felt like too much was getting shoved into the limited time and space.

Information Overload

It was a nice change to have a central location that the PCs could return to at the end of each week. The village of Hommel Lane (a close mirror of the classic Hommlet) was interesting and full of colourful characters. The description for each building talked about who resided there and gave us a bit about their personal story. This is exactly what I’d expect if I was running this for a home campaign and it was nice to have for Encounters. The problem was that there was way too much detail for newer players to absorb. I think my groups only visited about ¼ of the buildings and when there didn’t really get a lasting impression of who all the people were. As much as I dislike running an NPC who’s basically the DM’s character, perhaps a guide or some other notable NPC who could offer suggestions and fill in some of the blanks might have helped struggling players figure out what to do and where to go.

Same Old Party

At my FLGS I encourage players to bounce from table to table. It lets everyone get to know the other players and it lets them see other characters in action. This season bouncing around was not possible. With the non-linear story everyone tackled the events in a different order. If someone decided to change tables they may find that their PC has been to the Caves of Chaos while the rest of the table has been to the cavern of the Reptile God. This could mean that some PCs do the same encounter twice and miss an encounter all together. So for this season, for better or worse, once the PCs formed an adventuring party they were stuck with that group.

Maps

The maps look great and they always do for D&D Encounters. However, this season some of the maps were too small. If you have two double sided poster maps and you have eight encounters each map can be one half of one side of the poster. The Moat House took up one full side of a poster. It looked fantastic (and will be used again for my home games for sure), but it means that two maps had to be squished onto one half of one side (each getting a quarter of the side. This meant that the cellar encounter and the Caves of Chaos were pretty cramped. It made sense for the cellar, but for the caves it did not. To resolve this issue I would have provided a third poster map. On one side I’d have included a larger map for the Caves of Chaos and maybe a floor plan for the Golden Grain Inn. On the other side I’d have included a full map of Hommel Lane. Considering how much time the PCs spent in town this would have been a really nice gesture. Instead I had to copy the map from the book and provide it as a handout. (This is a very minor nit pick overall, I’ll give you that, but it did bother me and players mentioned it as well which is why I included it on the list).

Bad for New DMs

The D&D Encounters program is intended to draw in new players. The running joke is that it’s the gateway drug that hooks new players on to D&D. They see you playing at the FLGS, join in, have fun, and keep coming back. Hopefully they enjoy their experiences enough that they want to play at home with their friends which lead them to purchase books and a DDI subscription. Likewise D&D Encounters is a place for newer players to try their hand at being the DM. Whether they want to run a full season or just fill in when needed it’s a forgiving environment where they can learn from more experience players and fellow DMs.

From the players’ side of things this season did a pretty good job. Many people commented that this season felt the most like old-school D&D than any others before it. However, the non-linear nature of the adventure (which I loved) made it tough to shift people around when new players showed up (something we already talked about above).

Where it was really problematic was when we needed to expand and start a new table. The way this season’s adventure was set up made it almost impossible for a brand new DM to step in and run things. This was not an adventure conducive for a DM to run that week’s encounter after a quick read. The DM needed to invest some serious time reading the whole adventure cover to cover so that he could get a better sense of what’s going on and how to run that week’s encounter. Needless to say anyone looking to become a DM this time around either signed on for the whole season or not at all.

Final Thoughts

Overall I really liked this season. I can’t emphasize enough how big a success the non-linear story telling was. We had a lot of new players this season and that was the #1 thing they kept commenting on. They thought it was great that what they did at table 1 was different than what their friends did at table 2, and by the end they all saw how the pieces fell into place. The players enjoyed having freedom to explore where they wanted when they wanted (even though at first they were a bit apprehensive and confused at the prospect).

I think that Wizards is doing a great job of trying something new every season and I hope to see more experimentation in the program (next season we get to play characters from level 3-6). I think they also scored big by providing D&D Next conversion kits. I’m sure more and more groups will start using them in the seasons to come.

Against the Cult of Chaos 9 on a d10.

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1 DnDBarrie April 11, 2013 at 11:05 am

Thanks for a great review. I always enjoy hearing your perspective on the adventure then I go and review it again with your tips and thought. We didnt really run this encounters much this session to personnel changes and illness so it didnt flow at all for me. The multiple story lines and threads made it difficult to for me to do all the prep needed. I personally like the linear story but allow the characters some latitude in what to do next with hints and tips to get them back on track.

2 Alton (Marc Talbot) April 11, 2013 at 1:12 pm

It was a great season and fun to report on. I loved running it and even though my group missed a couple of sessions, the non-linearity of the encounters was such that we could easily catch up with some serious roleplaying and short little encounters.

This season was some of the best balanced season so far. I saw that to successfully overcome all the encounters, you did need a balanced party. Overall a great season.
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3 Feetz April 11, 2013 at 6:08 pm

“In almost every season of D&D Encounters the PCs face a Dragon.”

Am I missing something? Where was the dragon in Seasons 7-11? I haven’t played Seasons 1-5 but assuming they all had dragons that would only be 7 out of 13 seasons with a dragon. Most of my players started with Season 7. They’re actually looking forward to the Dragon in the new season.

I agree with almost every other point. The concerns that I developed had more to do with the mechanics of using Next than the season itself.

4 Justin April 11, 2013 at 6:18 pm

I played in both the 4e Rule and Next rules (last two weeks of the Adventure I was out of town and so I played in a different cities games). I have to say not only did I love this adventure but my kids loved it too. They have enjoyed the weekly D&D game but this was the first game that they wanted to come so bad they would tell people that they were busy on Wed nights. Matter of fact my 6yr old started to get teary when they were afraid they might miss a week because I had to go out of town (lucky my wife still took them).

What I though was very successful was this:
1. Role playing: The GM at both the stores I played at were great at using the information to add flavor to the town. Like when we went to shake down the pawn brokers who worked with the bandits my Minotaur could not roll a bluff check to save his life (to pretend that he was buying something). So the GM made me roll a straight dex check to see if I would knock things down well I failed that too and my Minotaur was a bull in the china shop. Fargrim tried to help me and roll a nat 1 so he started breaking things. The whole table was in an uproar. Shoot in the final battle we had Fargrim holding the chaos blade go nuts and kill Merric. Then Chali turned around and killed Fargrim. Yet even with that happening everyone was laughing and having a great time.

2. Non Liner: Again I loved this because I did not feel like I was on a railroad track. Also this meant that people paid attention. Normally my girls don’t really listen until there is a fight. This time they listened and contributed a lot.

3. Pulling in new people: At the store we play at we had 4 people week 1. By the end of the adventure we had 8. People kept coming back. My last 3 weeks I traveled to Dallas for work and played at a different store (they were 1 week behind). First week it was me and 3 other people. Next week we added 2 more, and the Last week 3 more (friends of the people from the week before). Even though we were playing with the Next rules people still were OK and jumped right in. They are all going back next week because they are wanting to continue playing and make new characters (even buying miniatures).

4. Ability to continue with characters: Even though Neverwinter is for players from the Neverwinter campaign both GMs I played with are allowing us to continue with our characters (since you start at level 3). Everyone not playing a pregen decided to continue with their character. This I think helped with fleshing out who you are with the group and it will be a lot of fun.

Overall I hope they do this again because I think it was a great success.

5 Cent April 12, 2013 at 10:26 am

*We played this season using the Next play-test rules*

I’m really heartened to read all the positive reviews of this season’s encounters. It sounds like everyone is reporting having enjoyed the experience. I didn’t feel the same, but I’m glad that other players and DM’s did enjoy their time this past season.

GOOD

1. In addition to returning players, we had several new players turn up this season. These players seemed to have a great time, and all of them returned for our Session 0 this week. Clearly they liked what they saw last season.

2. DnD Next feels so much like the 2nd Edition rules that I cut my teeth on. I think combat in particular was more flavorful and somewhat more tactical than what I’ve seen in 4e.

3. There was little in the way of railroading players through the story this season. After several seasons of Encounters, it was nice to feel as though the we were given more slack to explore this time around. I believe that openness brought up some very fun and memorable RP moments.

NOT SO GOOD

1. DM’s had their work cut out for them this season. You could see our DM’s, who are experienced with Encounters, kind of struggling at times. In addition to having to be on their toes RP wise, our DM’s had a lot more pauses to review material, and suffered confusion over some of the 4e to Next conversions.

2. Here a cult, there a cult, everywhere a… Any citizen of Hommel should be gnashing her/his teeth over the debacle that is their real estate market. I mean how can one hope to retain any property equity when your town routinely besieged by bandits and a myriad of cults? Prospective buyers of homes/businesses in Hommel would be encouraged to look elsewhere. ;-)

Therein lies my biggest complaint about this season. I know this was a mash-up of classic modules, and it felt like it. There were so many problems in and around Hommel that as a player, I found it very difficult to take the town seriously without giving into frustration and anger over the ridiculous state of affairs. I chose to play it as such, but I didn’t find it satisfying.

In fact, it wasn’t until the statue of Hommel sprung to life and went charging into the maw of assembled monsters that I realized how tongue and cheek this season really was. Having that cathartic moment made the final confrontation, with the generic, hereto unheard of baddie, easier to stomach.

On the whole, this season was better than some, but not as good as others. I’d give it a 6.5 out of 10, and guess that had we played with 4e rules I might have enjoyed it a bit more.

6 B.J. April 12, 2013 at 5:18 pm

Our game was crushed by the fact that the shop started charging $5 to play Encounters. Our player pool shriveled up and evaporated. the first two sessions were free: we had seven players. After that, they began to charge. We had two players. We’re going to try the 5e edition for the next season to see if that can bring people back, but it looks like the program is deflated.

7 Peter B April 12, 2013 at 10:52 pm

Good:

Lots of players got the feel for a home game – There was STORY in this adventure. It felt like a real world instead of a book where some chapters changed based on what your party looked like and rolled. It means, to me at least, that players are now prepared for what they’ll get if they decide to pack up their dice and go over to a buddy’s house to play, and that’s important for the longevity of D&D.

Based on PCs – Again, this goes back to the story bit, but this season felt like it was driven by the PCs instead of whatever NPC they were working for.

Bad:

Lack of focus – Less about the story here, and more about the PCs. Our store has a lot of week-by-week players that can’t make it every week, so they show up when they can. That meant that most weeks I had to shift PCs from one table to another, or ask an agreeable player to help out by playing a role we needed. It made it hard for the players to find a niche to fill.

Too much – There was a lot of stuff to go over each week. It dragged into my DMs and made them work overly hard to prepare each week, especially our new DM. There were times, even, when I had to fill in as a DM, and I was totally unprepared. Made it very hard to do anything well.

8 Alphastream April 25, 2013 at 7:19 pm

You always have such great reviews. Excellent points on magic items. I think authors and DMs think magic will be this huge colorful part, but in past Encounters seasons they really haven’t added much at all. Your point on DM’s being challenged is sound as well. It is so hard to offer something intricate and flexible without requiring more DM work.

I agree regarding the mashup. It was my biggest concern from start to finish. I really don’t think mashing canon is a good idea. It is fine to be inspired by classic works, but pulling and changing actual locations and NPCs is jarring to those of us that think back on these adventures as iconic experiences. For new players, this becomes their canon – now the actual canonical experience won’t feel that way. I don’t think we really gained anything from this and I would be very glad not to see it again, to be completely honest. No issues with inspiration, just with actually using locations/NPCs/etc.

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